Happy Eternity Discussions: Divergent Movie Discussion with Jeann & Chiara – Part 1

April 30, 2014 by Jeann @ Happy Indulgence | Books, Features, Happy Eternity Discussions

So Chiara @ Books for a Delicate Eternity and I went to see Divergent together and thought it would be a good idea to discuss it together! And so, Happy Eternity Discussions was born. I hope you guys enjoy our discussion, stay tuned for more in the future!


Jeann: So I did a lot better with my second time of watching Divergent, this time I actually told myself to concentrate on the movie instead of staring at Four going GUH. How did you go with your first time watching it?

Chiara: Weeeeellllll Theo James is incredibly sexy. I mean everything about that guy is just asdfghjkl. The face, the lips, THE VOICE. I had a hard time concentrating on things whenever he was in the scene but hey. I tried my best!

I must say that I liked it. There were a few things that I guess I’ll talk about later on in this discussion that I think could have been improved upon, or things that were missing that should have been in it but weren’t. But overall I quite liked it, and thought it was a pretty good book to movie adaptation. Unlike some others of recent times. *cough VA cough*

Jeann: OMG THE VOICE. He’s seriously sexy, and appeals to women of all ages (I wasn’t an Edward, Jacob or even Peeta or Gale fangirl but THEO). I loved it when everyone was screaming and whistling when Theo took his shirt off, go fangirls!

ANYWAY to save this from being a “fangirling about Theo James” discussion, I noticed that Veronica Roth was one of the Executive Producers of the movie. Probably why this adaptation was a lot more faithful to the book than other recent movies. I thought the casting was done really well, although I wish they introduced the secondary characters a lot better. What is with Will, Al and even Peter looking kind of similar?

Chiara: The voice is too deep. I cannot concentrate on anything but the deep voice. *flails* And yes he totally appeals to all ages! I think it’s because he’s not uber young. HAHA YES. The ‘woohoo’s were definitely hilarious. I am a silent admirer, though. Just stunned in my seat.

HAHA. A Theo James appreciation post would be epic!



Okay, okay. Back to the movie! I think her involvement probably had a huge hand in making the movie quite by-the-book. I know if I wrote a book and it was being turned into a movie, I’d demand some kind of active involvement. If not: no movie. I just don’t see how authors could let someone take away and change their baby. D:

The cast was done quite well, although Janine was NOTHING like I had imagined. But overall I was quite happy with the choices (even if the whole brother and sister in one movie, lovers in the next thing was awkward as heck). Oh yeah I definitely agree that there was little to no introduction for the secondary characters. AND YES. I was like: you all look the same *narrows eyes at movie screen* I seriously had no idea who was who, to be honest. XD

I was actually really disappointed that they took out the bit where Tris throws her jumper at Peter. I think it really shows that she’s not going to take crap from anyone, and in the movie it kind of made her look too meek. I mourned the loss of that little kickass scene, because I think it was important to show that Tris HAD some bravery and actually did fit into Dauntless.

Jeann: OMG STAHHP! …what were we talking about again?


Theo was the perfect Four, he was sexy, snarky, broody and totally badass.THIS is the sexy, broody Four that we know, not the whiny one from Allegiant. Shailene was also the perfect Tris, she embodied Tris’s strength, bravery and vulnerability really well. I like her because she seems really relatable on the screen. I’m not sure whether the chemistry between the two was convincing enough though, or it was pulled off only because they were both really good actors. But that’s ok because most of the time we’re staring at Four, haha.

I knew who the main secondary characters were mostly because of the scoreboard. I wish they had picked more distinct looking ones though. I actually really enjoyed Kate Winslet as Janine, she has that cold, intelligent, sinister edge to her. Yeah, Shailene Woodley and Ansel Elgort being brothers and sisters here and then lovers in The Fault in Our Stars was really weird, especially since the trailer was shown right before the movie.

I only noticed the second time but the all the taunting about Tris being a stiff actually all came from Peter. Peter, Eric, and to an extent Molly were all appropriately assy and you hated them from the start. I wish there was more of a focus on the other initiates though, seeing others’ fear landscapes would have been cool and great for character development. I actually think the effect of the jumper scene was shown on how Tris shot him at the end, but would have been good to have as well.

Chiara: Oh don’t spoil me! I still haven’t gotten around to reading Allegiant yet, but I was semi-spoiled … in a NON REVIEW POST THAT WASN’T EVEN ABOUT THE BOOK /end rant/.

Oh gosh I did not feel the chemistry between them at all, haha. Like, I remember when Bella and Edward kissed in the first Twilight movie and like holy dooly sexual tension much but there was none of that in Divergent. But I guess this story is more than just a romance, so perhaps it was on purpose?

I did like Shailene as Tris, but to be honest, I am not particularly keen on her as an actress. I’m not exactly sure what it is … but for me, it seems like her style is very aloof. Like: yeah, I’m acting, big deal. Which sounds mean but I am harsh when it comes to movies!

I eventually realised the subtle differences between the secondary characters, but I definitely think that the choices should have been more distinct. Just to avoid confusion. It was SO WEIRD. Like *shudder* I think that the YA movie industry is just re-using people WAY too much. But that’s a discussion for another day 😉

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59 responses to “Happy Eternity Discussions: Divergent Movie Discussion with Jeann & Chiara – Part 1

  1. I could totally fangirl over Theo James! Definitely agree that he is sexy. Such a bummer that he is so much older than me D:

    I really enjoyed this movie even though I've never read the books. I'm not sure how I'll react to the third movie though since not many people liked the book haha.
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  2. OMG Aimee noooo! How could that be! Oh well, that means there's more for the rest of us hehe 😉 Yeah it was so confusing with the other characters. There really wasn't any chemistry at all, but hey I'm not complaining.

  3. Thanks Allie, I'm glad you enjoyed it! FOUR was so good, I am seeing everyone loving him lol. Yes, the chemistry was really disconnected wasn't it? I hope the DVD version will show more scenes between them.

  4. Thanks Kelly, SEE DIVERGENT before it's gone! Quick, you must do it and SEE THEO JAMES on the screen zomg. Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for reading both parts <3

  5. Love the discussion review. I haven't seen Divergent yet, but although Theo James is utterly immaculate, Four and Tris just arenas I imagined them. I'm hoping to be proven wrong after seeing it this weekend. I'd love to see more discussion posts though, just heading over to read part two. Well done ladies, super entertaining.
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  6. LOVE this post! Totally agree about Theo James and his sexiness. Then again, who on Earth could disagree with THAT?! I do think he nailed Four and did the best he could with the scenes he was in.

    I didn't feel the chemistry between him and Tris though (with you there Chiara!). At the end when she said she loved him I was like, what?! You've barely spoken. A lot of the interactions between Foru and Tris were cut out or cut short, and I just didn't feel their sparks like I did in the book.

    Here's hoping movie 2 will get the romance right!
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  7. Weeeeeell, I actually do not like Theo James at all. I don't like his face, LOL. But the voice. Yes, I loved his voice. And I had to keep asking my seatmate who the hell the characters were (since it was her second time watching), even if I have already read the books and she hasn't. xDD I loved Kate Winslet too. She was badass. And I felt zero for the romance. I agree with Chiara–Twilight gave me more feels, lol! ;P
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  8. I thought this was an excellent book-to-movie adaptation! I'd seen Shailene in movies before and thought she was great, I also loved Theo, he was perfect as Four!

    I thought most of the action was well done, the zip-line looked a tad fake to me, but that's to be expected. I can't wait for the next film now!
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  9. To be perfectly honest, I was never a huge Divergent fan. I didn't even find Four all that swoon worthy in the book. I haven't bothered to read the rest of the series, either.

    But THIS. This looks awesome. That trailer looks kickass. Theo James is yummy. What more do I need?

    And I love this feature! Haha! 😀 I think it's awesome that you and Chiara have joined up.
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    • Oh wow, I loved the first book but the 3rd one made me dislike the series lol. But YES the movie is amazing! Besides the sexy man candy it actually is a decent movie! I'm glad you enjoyed it Brea 🙂

  10. Yes! I completely agree with everything you've said here! It was a good movie (especially the Theo James scenes – haha!), but, like you both pointed out, I didn't really feel connected fully to Shailene's acting. As an actress myself, I feel her acting is lacking something, but I can't quite put my finger on what it is. Anyhow, thanks so much for sharing and, as always, BRILLIANT post! <3
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  11. Okay I'm sorry, but after the Theo James gif I think my eyes glazed over. Those lips! DearSweetJesus. Theo… Wonderful Theo. I think I would like to see this movie again… for um, strictly professional reasons… (not because I want to see Theo take of his shirt again). Great discussion/Theo James appreciation post! Hahaha.
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  12. Hahaha! Are you sure this isn't a Theo appreciate post? ;D Not that I'm complaining *fans self* I have been waiting for someone to say that about Shailene! I couldn't think of the word but yes-aloof is definitely the right choice. I liked her in this movie but in the Fault previews I'm just kind "Eh." Fun discussion 🙂
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  13. I have to admit i wasn't a huge fan of the movie except for probably the casting, while the actors were just too old to play their characters THEO JAMES was easy on the eyes and i could deal with it. I have to admit while I knw what you mean about Shailene's acting i could see her as Tris though. I'm glad she was cast instead of someone else!

    Great movie review/talk LOL

    Lily @Lilysbookblog

    • Yeah that's why the Percy Jackson cast is quite hilarious, they are all meant to be in primary/middle school but if they continue the movies they will look too old lol! Lol I don't watch Downton Abbey but Ohhh. Yes please.

    • Thanks Jessica, glad you enjoyed the post! Haha yes first time I watched the movie I was in shocked awe, sad but true. TFIOS trailer was shown before the movie for us so it was definitely weird!

  14. Theo did make this movie, didn't he! I enjoyed this movie, it had been a while since I read the book so I wasn't sitting there thinking about all the things they left out. The secondary characters did sort of blend in together, which is a shame. And yes, so awkward that Ansel/Shailene are brother and sister in one movie and lovers in the next.

    I really enjoyed this little chat, great idea girls.
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  15. I thought I was the only one who thought that Will, Al and Peter looked the same! I got so damn confused. Aaaaaah Theo is just amazing and incredibly sexy but there wasn't enough shirtless time for my liking! The Fault in Our Stars trailer beforhand really threw me off but I do like the casting. The one thing i did't like was that you could clearly see that she was wearing make-up. Shailene was ok but not amazing as you say, she could have portrayed Tris's emotion a little better.
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    • I know, it's so weird how they picked such similar looking actors hey? Haha yes we all wish there was more shirtless time lol! Exactly, the TFIOS trailer and seeing the two together was a bit weird. Thanks for commenting Francoise!

  16. Both of these discussion posts appeared in my email box next to each other 😛 I guess that was telling me something. I agree with a lot of these things – having not read the book for a while, I had NO idea who was who a lot of the time. I wanted to see more of the fear landscapes as well. The Ansel/Shailene thing doesn't bother me so much, because I can already tell that Shailene acts completely different in the movies – as she should! They're such different characters, even if they're both really strong in different ways, and I can't wait to see both The Fault in Our Stars and the sequels to Divergent. Although there's no way they should split Allegiant into two parts…

    On to part 2 🙂
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    • YES That's why I think Shailene is awesome, that's signs of being a great actress! I can't wait to see TFIOS and am SO excited that you won an early screening ticket! I bet the movie is going to be awesome.

  17. I didn't like Shailene as Tris. I agree with Chiara, I felt like she was being a Kristen Stewart in this movie, no emotion, no……anything really (I admit, she did show more emotion than Kristen Stewart in the movie, but still!!), but she did nearly make me cry when her mum died. I got so confused between those guys as well! Half of the movie, I was wondering who was who.